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		By: Radu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Lyle! 

This series has clarified a lot of concepts for me. So far you&#039;re the only one that managed to explain &quot;the general principles&quot; that make a certain routine work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lyle! </p>
<p>This series has clarified a lot of concepts for me. So far you&#8217;re the only one that managed to explain &#8220;the general principles&#8221; that make a certain routine work.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/training/categories-of-weight-training-4#comment-7738</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 18:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lyle if I wanted to ask you a question about nutrition where can I ask, just want to know your take on implementing nutrition and training together. I&#039;m currently following ud2 just was about to be done with 6 week cycle and would like to know the benefit of either keeping macros the same everyday or to maybe have like 5 lower cal days with 2 higher kinda refeed days. Is it beneficial or just keep calories the same? Thoughts? Is it worth it to cycle tour carbs/cal intake]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle if I wanted to ask you a question about nutrition where can I ask, just want to know your take on implementing nutrition and training together. I&#8217;m currently following ud2 just was about to be done with 6 week cycle and would like to know the benefit of either keeping macros the same everyday or to maybe have like 5 lower cal days with 2 higher kinda refeed days. Is it beneficial or just keep calories the same? Thoughts? Is it worth it to cycle tour carbs/cal intake</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 16:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Appreciate  the response Lyle, I was thinking something like that, workouts yes do get to long If you try to fit all rep ranges in one workout, I&#039;ll figure something out, or if one or your examples strikes me good maybe that. Thanks I will most likely spilt up more strength days and hypertrophy days into a upper Lower like that spilt you prefer in your &#039;arguably favorite spilt you recommend I&#039;ll see thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate  the response Lyle, I was thinking something like that, workouts yes do get to long If you try to fit all rep ranges in one workout, I&#8217;ll figure something out, or if one or your examples strikes me good maybe that. Thanks I will most likely spilt up more strength days and hypertrophy days into a upper Lower like that spilt you prefer in your &#8216;arguably favorite spilt you recommend I&#8217;ll see thanks</p>
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		By: lylemcd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 14:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bodyrecomposition.com/training/categories-of-weight-training-4#comment-7734&quot;&gt;Sam&lt;/a&gt;.

Nope, makes perfect sense and I&#039;ll actually touch on different ways of putting all of this together when I wrap up hypertrophy training.  All of the approaches you described can work.  For people who are very strong, doing all of the low rep work by itself often works best, simply because it&#039;s too fatiguing to do anything afterwards (at the 4 year mark you&#039;re probably getting close).  So something like Layne Norton&#039;s PHAT (one power day, one higher rep day).  For folks who are not as strong, you can do it all in the same workout (i.e. heavy work followed by medium rep work followed by a couple of pump sets to finish off).   Within the context of an upper/lower, the workouts also get brutally long if you try to do everything for a lot of bodyparts in the same workout.  For someone at the 4 year mark I often recommend specialization approaches (where you focus on maybe two bodyparts per training cycle), which I haven&#039;t written up yet.  Maybe when this series is over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bodyrecomposition.com/training/categories-of-weight-training-4#comment-7734">Sam</a>.</p>
<p>Nope, makes perfect sense and I&#8217;ll actually touch on different ways of putting all of this together when I wrap up hypertrophy training.  All of the approaches you described can work.  For people who are very strong, doing all of the low rep work by itself often works best, simply because it&#8217;s too fatiguing to do anything afterwards (at the 4 year mark you&#8217;re probably getting close).  So something like Layne Norton&#8217;s PHAT (one power day, one higher rep day).  For folks who are not as strong, you can do it all in the same workout (i.e. heavy work followed by medium rep work followed by a couple of pump sets to finish off).   Within the context of an upper/lower, the workouts also get brutally long if you try to do everything for a lot of bodyparts in the same workout.  For someone at the 4 year mark I often recommend specialization approaches (where you focus on maybe two bodyparts per training cycle), which I haven&#8217;t written up yet.  Maybe when this series is over.</p>
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		By: Sam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 03:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lyle for a good routine for a 4year lifter do you recommend training in all rep ranges like say someone is doing a lower upper spilt. Training in all rep ranges in one workout or spilt the rep ranges per day? Include max training, extensive bodybuilding and really extensive bodybuilding all in one workout to reach 60 reps per body part or just do one workout devoted to one rep range and the next time you train do another rep range? Hope it makes sense if not I&#039;ll try explain better]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle for a good routine for a 4year lifter do you recommend training in all rep ranges like say someone is doing a lower upper spilt. Training in all rep ranges in one workout or spilt the rep ranges per day? Include max training, extensive bodybuilding and really extensive bodybuilding all in one workout to reach 60 reps per body part or just do one workout devoted to one rep range and the next time you train do another rep range? Hope it makes sense if not I&#8217;ll try explain better</p>
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		By: Fredrik Gyllensten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good information here too, Lyle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good information here too, Lyle.</p>
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		By: Brad		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/training/categories-of-weight-training-4#comment-5561</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey lyle,

Do you think there&#039;s much truth to Poliquin&#039;s often espoused theories about different reps being optimal for different trainees based on their muscle fibre types (slow twitch or fast twitch)? So that an assumed fast-twitch oly lifter would hypertrophy on lower reps (sets of 5 as you mentioned), but someone who was more of a mix or slow twitch would do better on relatively higher reps? Does the fact that slow-twitch fibres have limited hypertrophy potential tie in with how you were saying high rep stuff doesn&#039;t normally work well for naturals, or is that just more of a function of tension and the light loads required for high reps? 

I remember Poliquin used to say he would test the 1RM of something like the weighted chinup, then 10 minutes later have the trainee do max reps at 85% of their chinning weight, and the number of reps they got would be the rep range they would hypertrophy those muscles best in for that exercise, again going back to their fibre types. This would be assuming that 85% is best for hypertrophy, but makes an interesting distinction between people who may be able to get 3 reps with 85% vs. people who may be able to get 20 reps with 85% (as you&#039;ve probably encountered in training people).

Sorry for the long-winded and open ended questions, as well as the loliquinisms, but I was just wondering about your take on the issue. Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey lyle,</p>
<p>Do you think there&#8217;s much truth to Poliquin&#8217;s often espoused theories about different reps being optimal for different trainees based on their muscle fibre types (slow twitch or fast twitch)? So that an assumed fast-twitch oly lifter would hypertrophy on lower reps (sets of 5 as you mentioned), but someone who was more of a mix or slow twitch would do better on relatively higher reps? Does the fact that slow-twitch fibres have limited hypertrophy potential tie in with how you were saying high rep stuff doesn&#8217;t normally work well for naturals, or is that just more of a function of tension and the light loads required for high reps? </p>
<p>I remember Poliquin used to say he would test the 1RM of something like the weighted chinup, then 10 minutes later have the trainee do max reps at 85% of their chinning weight, and the number of reps they got would be the rep range they would hypertrophy those muscles best in for that exercise, again going back to their fibre types. This would be assuming that 85% is best for hypertrophy, but makes an interesting distinction between people who may be able to get 3 reps with 85% vs. people who may be able to get 20 reps with 85% (as you&#8217;ve probably encountered in training people).</p>
<p>Sorry for the long-winded and open ended questions, as well as the loliquinisms, but I was just wondering about your take on the issue. Cheers.</p>
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		By: Tex		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m doing sets and reps of 5. I&#039;ve heard that it&#039;s not a good idea to mix high reps (light) and low reps (heavy) in the same workout. Would you suggest adding a 6th set of higher reps?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m doing sets and reps of 5. I&#8217;ve heard that it&#8217;s not a good idea to mix high reps (light) and low reps (heavy) in the same workout. Would you suggest adding a 6th set of higher reps?</p>
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		By: Ahmed		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/training/categories-of-weight-training-4#comment-5559</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ahmed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great information Lyle]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great information Lyle</p>
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		By: lylemcd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A student goes to the dojo and asks the master how long it will take for him to become a master himself.  The master says &quot;First you must learn patience.&quot;  And the student asks &quot;Yeah, yeah, patience, how long is that going to take?&quot;

And it&#039;s 30-60 reps per muscle group.  That was one thing I did leave out and was going to clarify on Tuesday week anyhow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A student goes to the dojo and asks the master how long it will take for him to become a master himself.  The master says &#8220;First you must learn patience.&#8221;  And the student asks &#8220;Yeah, yeah, patience, how long is that going to take?&#8221;</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s 30-60 reps per muscle group.  That was one thing I did leave out and was going to clarify on Tuesday week anyhow.</p>
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