Are Upright Rows Safe – Q&A

Question: Are upright rows safe?  Googling yields tons of different results. What is your opinion on that?

Answer: As always, the short answer is that it depends.  Mainly on how they are done and the person doing them.  Frankly, this is truly the only way to analyze if a given exercise is ‘safe’ or not, any exercise can be relatively more safe or unsafe for a given individual for a given set of circumstances.  That said, the upright row does tend to be surrounded by it’s share of ‘unsafe exercise’ beliefs so let’s look at why.

I think the first place I saw it asserted that upright rows were categorically unsafe was in the old 7-Minute Rotator Cuff Solution from Health for Life (a now defunct company that put out a variety of different manuals).  And this was based on the mechanics of the movement.  Specifically, upright rows put the shoulder in an internally rotated and horizontally abducted position.  And this is a potential problem because it puts the shoulder/rotator cuff at risk for impingement.  Hence, to avoid shoulder problems, upright rows became one of the big no-no exercises.

But is this strictly true?  In my opinion, no and much of it has to do with how the exercise is performed.  Certainly, the traditional bodybuilder method of performing the exercise is pretty high risk.  I’ve shown the typical form below.

Traditional Upright Row
High Ouchie Potential

As you can see, the elbows are being brought very high (often the goal is to get them to the ears) and certainly that tends to put the rotator cuff in a high risk position even with excellent shoulder control.  As well, you don’t really get a whole lot more involvement of the deltoids in the first place by pulling the bar this high.  So you increase the risk without really impacting on the movement’s benefit as a shoulder movement.

So for those reasons, I certainly wouldn’t recommend folks do upright rows using that technique.  The risk is high and the benefit relatively low.  This is especially true given that it’s easy to modify the movement into one that is not only safer for the shoulder but targets the deltoids just as effectively.  And that is to do the movement where you stop with the elbows only going as high as the shoulders themselves (this typically put the weight/bar/dumbbell about sternum level) as shown below.

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Modified Upright Row
Less Ouchie Potential

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The above has far less potential for impingement issues, simply by limiting the range of motion.  Yet it still provides full stimulation for the medial deltoid. I’d mention that it does still require some ability to control the scapula (in terms of setting the shoulder down and not letting it elevate) so someone with a previous rotator cuff injury might still have problems with it.  But for someone with good scapular control and no other shoulder issues, I see no problem with doing upright rows in this fashion.

As a final note, I would suggest doing the movement either with a rope handle (off a cable stack) or with dumbbells.  The wrists tend to get a bit cocked using a barbell so even if the movement doesn’t bug your shoulder, it can jack up your wrists.  And, of course, if doing upright rows even in the above fashion still bugs your shoulders, drop the movement.  As I said up above, movements can only generally be rated as safe or unsafe for a given individual under a given set of circumstances.  If a movement causes pain, it’s not a good one for you.

Hope that clears things up.

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11 thoughts on “Are Upright Rows Safe – Q&A

  1. Funny, I was thinking about this issue myself, and just in time here`s the answer.

    Somewhat wrecked my rotator cuffs trying to build some muscles, apparently I´m prone to shoulder injury and just did all the potentially harmful exercises.

    Bad part of shoulder injury is the weeks or months it takes for it to heal, during which you are deprived of most exercises…

  2. Hi Lyle
    Good, sensible advice. What do you think of performing the movement you suggest with a curling bar to reduce the cock of the wrists?

    Martin

  3. not a form safety recommendation but thought I’d add something I see very few mention. I do upright rows on a cable row machine with an ez bar attatchment. you could also use any other single arm(s) attachment like shown in lyle’s post, but I just find the lying vs. standing really has my medial delts firing for some reason.

  4. Thanks for the fast response, I think I will switch to shrugs instead, since even doing movement not all the way up makes my shoulders feel bit weird.

  5. What do you think of adding this exercise to your generic bulking routine? The upper day would be something like:

    Flat bench
    Row
    Incline Bench
    Pulldown/Chins
    Upright Row
    Tricep
    Bicep

  6. Lyle,

    Personally, I’ve never felt that upright rows had a potential for causing injury over other exercises. As long as you know what you’re doing, and are using proper for, then you should be ok. I prefer the dumbbell method when I’m working the shoulders. Bands are great for warming up, but they can be costly when you need to work with some serious resistance.

    -Mitchell

  7. I think that about says it all, great read and great advice. I used to love upright rows and now at an aolder age 40+ the shoulders are shot and crack and pop, all makes sense now. and I agree with Mitchell, dumbbells are the way to go, barbells are a killer for sure, no motion for any joint.

  8. The real question is, are upright rows anything other than a complete waste of programming space for people who don’t have the recovery abilities of a heavy steroid user/Wolverine from X-Men?

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