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		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-511</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The primary drive for this is the digestion speed, Boirie and Dangin did followups and that was the primary difference in most of what was going on.  Of course, the oxidation of whey isn&#039;t helping, the body is burning it off for energy.  I don&#039;t recall if major hormonal differences were seen offhand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary drive for this is the digestion speed, Boirie and Dangin did followups and that was the primary difference in most of what was going on.  Of course, the oxidation of whey isn&#8217;t helping, the body is burning it off for energy.  I don&#8217;t recall if major hormonal differences were seen offhand.</p>
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		By: Chris Davis		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-508</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To the BAA curves and insulin, I have to admit that i thought the insulinogenic effects of WPI may have contributed in part to the quick drop off and return to baseline. Obviously when comparing fixed identical isocaloric and protein amounts, the one that digests and reaches peak BAA levels more quickly will fall more quickly (and to a lower value) to complete the AUC. but i also wondered if the combination of a quick digestion and gastric emptying with the high BCAA content of WPI and resultant gluconeogenesis and insulin release didn&#039;t contribute somewhat to the steep drop in BAA levels, especially given that these were in fasted individuals who would be predisposed to a greater insulin response versus being in a previous fed state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the BAA curves and insulin, I have to admit that i thought the insulinogenic effects of WPI may have contributed in part to the quick drop off and return to baseline. Obviously when comparing fixed identical isocaloric and protein amounts, the one that digests and reaches peak BAA levels more quickly will fall more quickly (and to a lower value) to complete the AUC. but i also wondered if the combination of a quick digestion and gastric emptying with the high BCAA content of WPI and resultant gluconeogenesis and insulin release didn&#8217;t contribute somewhat to the steep drop in BAA levels, especially given that these were in fasted individuals who would be predisposed to a greater insulin response versus being in a previous fed state.</p>
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		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-481</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some aminos are insulin dependent in terms of transport into tissues (the branched chain amino acids especially so) so that can be part of it, yes.

But think about what&#039;s actually happening during digestion.    you&#039;ve just eaten 40 grams of protein and it&#039;s being digested at some rate (see part 2).  It appears in the bloodstream where it can be taken up into other tissues such as the liver, skeletal muscle, etc.  Eventually the protein in the gut will be fully digested and blood levels will then drop; more amino acids are being taken up into tissues than are being released into the bloodstream (b/c digestion is finished).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some aminos are insulin dependent in terms of transport into tissues (the branched chain amino acids especially so) so that can be part of it, yes.</p>
<p>But think about what&#8217;s actually happening during digestion.    you&#8217;ve just eaten 40 grams of protein and it&#8217;s being digested at some rate (see part 2).  It appears in the bloodstream where it can be taken up into other tissues such as the liver, skeletal muscle, etc.  Eventually the protein in the gut will be fully digested and blood levels will then drop; more amino acids are being taken up into tissues than are being released into the bloodstream (b/c digestion is finished).</p>
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		By: Ed		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-479</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was wondering if insulin was important in clearing aa&#039;s from the bloodstream. Duh, of course the spike is related to digestion. But what about the dip?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if insulin was important in clearing aa&#8217;s from the bloodstream. Duh, of course the spike is related to digestion. But what about the dip?</p>
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		By: admin		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-473</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The form of whey is irrelevant as all forms digest at the same speed (ad copy to the contrary notwithsatanding).  Whey and whey hydrolysate digest at an identical speed, casein hydrolysate is about 5 minutes faster than non-hydrolysates.  Like 99% of the supplement industry, the push for hydrolysates is just another big scam.

See
&quot;Gastric emptying, gastric secretion and enterogastrone response after administration of milk proteins or their peptide hydrolysates in humans.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The form of whey is irrelevant as all forms digest at the same speed (ad copy to the contrary notwithsatanding).  Whey and whey hydrolysate digest at an identical speed, casein hydrolysate is about 5 minutes faster than non-hydrolysates.  Like 99% of the supplement industry, the push for hydrolysates is just another big scam.</p>
<p>See<br />
&#8220;Gastric emptying, gastric secretion and enterogastrone response after administration of milk proteins or their peptide hydrolysates in humans.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Boris		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-471</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and thanks for the information.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and thanks for the information.</p>
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		By: DjMark		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-470</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very good article again Lyle!
Question:
What is the type of whey used in this study?
Is this Concentrate,Isolate,Hydrosylate?
Cause that should make another difference right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article again Lyle!<br />
Question:<br />
What is the type of whey used in this study?<br />
Is this Concentrate,Isolate,Hydrosylate?<br />
Cause that should make another difference right?</p>
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		By: Boris		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-467</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the very rapid response!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the very rapid response!</p>
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		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-463</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ed, it&#039;s got nothing to do with insulin.  It&#039;s got to do with how the proteins DIGEST (e.g. the title of the article).  Whey digests quickly, casein digests slowly (b/c it clots in the gut, something I didn&#039;t bother mentioning in the article because i thought it was sufficiently clear).  Just like the article says.

Boris, leucine is just one of the amino acids that they often track in studies like this, I don&#039;t remember the reason why offhand.  But it&#039;s used as a surrogate marker for overall amino acid appearance, utilization, etc.  It&#039;s probably just easy to measure, it&#039;s also one of the aminos that is utilized heavily in skeletal muscle.  So it is a useful marker in this regards.

The current fascination with leucine, like most supplements, has an element of truth (in that leucine is a key player in turning on protein synthesis by activating something called mTOR) but some really piss-poor studies are being taken out of context to sell product (as usual). 

With appropriate protein intake, any athlete will get more leucine than they need.  The average protein has 15-25% branch chain amino acids, with whey having up to 25% and casein around 20% and about 1/3rd of that will be leucine so an athlete consuming 1.5 g/lb protein is getting tons of leucine already.  There is absolutely no reason to supplement it or add it to anything unless, for some reason, you were consuming inadequate protein in the first place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, it&#8217;s got nothing to do with insulin.  It&#8217;s got to do with how the proteins DIGEST (e.g. the title of the article).  Whey digests quickly, casein digests slowly (b/c it clots in the gut, something I didn&#8217;t bother mentioning in the article because i thought it was sufficiently clear).  Just like the article says.</p>
<p>Boris, leucine is just one of the amino acids that they often track in studies like this, I don&#8217;t remember the reason why offhand.  But it&#8217;s used as a surrogate marker for overall amino acid appearance, utilization, etc.  It&#8217;s probably just easy to measure, it&#8217;s also one of the aminos that is utilized heavily in skeletal muscle.  So it is a useful marker in this regards.</p>
<p>The current fascination with leucine, like most supplements, has an element of truth (in that leucine is a key player in turning on protein synthesis by activating something called mTOR) but some really piss-poor studies are being taken out of context to sell product (as usual). </p>
<p>With appropriate protein intake, any athlete will get more leucine than they need.  The average protein has 15-25% branch chain amino acids, with whey having up to 25% and casein around 20% and about 1/3rd of that will be leucine so an athlete consuming 1.5 g/lb protein is getting tons of leucine already.  There is absolutely no reason to supplement it or add it to anything unless, for some reason, you were consuming inadequate protein in the first place.</p>
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		By: Ed		</title>
		<link>https://bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/protein-sources-speed-of-digestion#comment-462</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those curves remind me of blood glucose levels after apple juice. Is insulin a player when consuming pure proteins, and is the peak insulin level the cause of the blood amino acid level difference between the whey and casein groups?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those curves remind me of blood glucose levels after apple juice. Is insulin a player when consuming pure proteins, and is the peak insulin level the cause of the blood amino acid level difference between the whey and casein groups?</p>
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